Sword Art Online Hollow Realization How Do You Go to Fuldom Trail Alone

My introduction to SAO was through the anime and then I don't know if this is consistent with the books but I felt Asuna and Kirito's relationship progression came across fairly natural. This was considering little $.25 of dialogue left me with the impression that they'd known each other for quite some time and had reasonably friendly or at least civil interactions. The bespeak at which their relationship started to plow romantic felt like the tail end of a longstanding acquaintance where circumstances finally allowed them to deepen a pre-existing relationship.

Swell article. I really enjoyed seeing Ordinal Scale referenced in alicization because ofttimes times movies similar that tin can feel like just filler, so seeing that intentionally made not the case and how SAO as a series feels so living and animate considering of changes like those existence allowed to happen.

Great and knowledgeable article equally usual, Great work.

As an old Anime/LN fans that has been a fan of Sword Fine art Online for almost one/3 of my life, (since ~xi years ago starting from Calorie-free Novel) I've seen the story abound and change many times over fourth dimension and saw all the "Retcons" and Reki's attempt to integrate and fix them as much equally possible in the LN itself. (Many Side story tried to integrate and cross reference SAO & SAO Progressive Light Novel since 2013, as well as The Calorie-free Novel itself, Alicization Arc (Vol9+) and onward, had many references and directly upwards talk about SAO Progressive events added in the story to make them fit)

And Honestly, I can't say I'grand the least bit annoyed of this at least in the LN/Side story side of things, I remember he did a nifty job and it'due south always good to see his growth and the better and ameliorate stories he deliver which each coming volumes.

Every bit for the SAOP Movie, Other than a flake of shame for original SAOP Floor i plot non getting faithfully animated a 2nd time for LN readers,
information technology is a bit sad for the Anime only viewers who might be even more confused of the SAOP'south standpoint in general and might think SAOP lite novel series is also a "reboot" of Main SAO LN, when in fact, information technology can non exist considered that due to all the references and integration of the story as well as no part ever being "retold" or straight changed.

Just the SAOP Movie including the Mito add-on does feel similar the biggest Retcons or better say, a reboot or culling timeline to the SAO Series so far both in Anime or even SAO Progressive Light Novel.

it'due south too overnice to know that Reki Kawahara confirmed in an interview that Mito volition most likely not exist added to the Light Novels due to being out of place to be added now and even if she is e'er added she will non be having the same story as the Mito in the Moving picture.
(Source: Special Staff Interview ii for SAOP Movie in NewType Magazine)

And so nosotros can exist certain that SAOP LN and SAO LN are nevertheless their own connected timeline unrelated to the Moving picture.

andramus wrote:

My introduction to SAO was through the anime and so I don't know if this is consistent with the books simply I felt Asuna and Kirito's relationship progression came across fairly natural. This was because little bits of dialogue left me with the impression that they'd known each other for quite some time and had reasonably friendly or at to the lowest degree civil interactions. The point at which their relationship started to turn romantic felt like the tail end of a longstanding acquaintance where circumstances finally allowed them to deepen a pre-existing relationship.

I completely agree on this likewise.
Even tho I started SAO from the Calorie-free Novel Volume 1 earlier anime release, it still felt the aforementioned to me due to the fact that Kirito and Asuna, while acting "distant" they knew a hell lot virtually each other, the story tell yous clearly that they had a history before this bespeak, it never become a relationship just it was a long history both personal as well equally many life and death battle together.
So it never felt rushed or bad to me when I read Book ane of the story.

Progressive low-cal novel is all side stories. The arc with Kizmel a dark-skinned Dark Elf is excellent. They likewise add her to the SAO game I retrieve the game was Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization. Not certain it been a while since I play it. Also, I like the side story of Argo in the progressive novel virtually the quest she fails and that is how she got those line on her face up. There is a different way that Kirito meets Asuna in the progressive LN. In the notes Reki Kawahara give his reason for irresolute from the original LN. I accept not seen the new movie yet but looking forward to it. I have read SAO LN vol 22 and Progressive to Vol 6. Merely got Sword Art Online Vol 23: Unital Ring Ii last week. This is new cloth since the concluding vol was going forward after the terminal episode of the anime. I bask reading his work.

the book jumps from episode one to episode 8

Azumi14 wrote:

Progressive light novel is all side stories. The arc with Kizmel a dark-skinned Dark Elf is excellent.

I'grand non at all invested in the series, though I accept watched all the anime and enjoyed it, so this is probably a stupid question, just how is there a Nighttime Elf in SAO Aincrad? Doesn't everyone wait like their real globe self? Isn't Progressive gear up entirely in the game before Kirito trounce it?

IMHO it'south desperately written wish fulfillment fanfic.

Gina Szanboti wrote:

Azumi14 wrote:

Progressive light novel is all side stories. The arc with Kizmel a dark-skinned Dark Elf is splendid.

I'chiliad not at all invested in the serial, though I accept watched all the anime and enjoyed it, and then this is probably a stupid question, but how is in that location a Night Elf in SAO Aincrad? Doesn't everyone await like their real world self? Isn't Progressive set entirely in the game before Kirito shell information technology?

The night elves are NPCs in Aincrad; like Yui, the one in question here is just a special case.

I retrieve the reason why SAO has pulled off all of this retconning without also much complaint is because the retcons are, with rare exceptions, improving the overall story rather than simply adding to it. I just finished listening to the audio book of the commencement novel (which is my first fourth dimension through the novel since SAO's early days) and was struck past how much it was missing. I know the anime telling the story linearly, with the side stories included, was controversial at the time, but it was a big improvement; in particular, that sense that Asuna and Kirito had known each other for a long fourth dimension was an anime comeback, not a novel original. Progressive is doing an even better chore of filling in the gaps.

TsukasaElkKite wrote:

IMHO information technology'south badly written wish fulfillment fanfic.

How is it fanfic? Wish-fulfillment, I'll grant you that. BTW, never watched or read SAO, much prefer Accel Earth.

fuuma_monou wrote:

TsukasaElkKite wrote:

IMHO it's badly written wish fulfillment fanfic.

How is it fanfic? Wish-fulfillment, I'll grant you that. BTW, never watched or read SAO, much prefer Accel Globe.

Reki said he wrote information technology because he sucked at games and so he imagined himself a story where a character is pretty much Neo from the Matrix in video games, so I guess fanfic/wish fulfillment are interchangeable when it comes to SAO, y'all could say it's a fiction for fans of video games, and it 1000% draws inspiration from things like the Matrix or other similar stories, it really does absolutely null new except put the anime spin on it, SAO doesn't even have characters, simply concepts, the OP MC, the hot girlfiend for the OP MC, the masterming, etc. much like..... The Matrix

this somewhat applies for AW every bit well, the ket differnece between AW and SAO bein that AW actualy has real characters with their own lives/motivations/stories within it dissimilar SAO

Orion2 wrote:

fuuma_monou wrote:

TsukasaElkKite wrote:

IMHO information technology's badly written wish fulfillment fanfic.

How is information technology fanfic? Wish-fulfillment, I'll grant you that. BTW, never watched or read SAO, much prefer Accel World.

Reki said he wrote it because he sucked at games so he imagined himself a story where a character is pretty much Neo from the Matrix in video games, so I approximate fanfic/wish fulfillment are interchangeable when it comes to SAO, you could say it'southward a fiction for fans of video games, and it 1000% draws inspiration from things like the Matrix or other similar stories, it actually does absolutely nothing new except put the anime spin on it, SAO doesn't even have characters, just concepts, the OP MC, the hot girlfiend for the OP MC, the masterming, etc. much like..... The Matrix

this somewhat applies for AW as well, the ket differnece betwixt AW and SAO bein that AW actualy has real characters with their own lives/motivations/stories within it unlike SAO

So much misinformation to detest on the series you dislike. SAO characters are not based on anyone he knows or himself. He actually said that he doesn't make a character settings or anything before he starts writing, the character becomes what they are now when he keeps writing. So, SAO is never influenced by matrix rather, matrix is inspired past Japanese games, anime & manga. Besides he never said he sucks at game all he said was he sucks at forming party like how Kirito did. And so exercise better research if you really want to hate SAO by forging the data. And seems you've never watched or read SAO otherwise you will not be maxim the later parts. OP MC when he always go his donkey kicked and required assistance from other, of class Asuna is super hot so I volition only agree with that!

Nate148 wrote:

the book jumps from episode i to episode 8

To be Exact, the book Volume i start on floor 74, flashback to start of expiry game, then go back to keep Floor 74 story and end in Floor 75. every bit the commodity mentioned, it was like this due to being a i-shot with page limit that needed a total determination.

EP2 of anime is adapted from SAO Progressive Book one just skipped a lot,
EP3 to 7 of Anime is from SAO Volume 2 side stories.

Orion2 wrote:

fuuma_monou wrote:

TsukasaElkKite wrote:

IMHO it's badly written wish fulfillment fanfic.

How is it fanfic? Wish-fulfillment, I'll grant you that. BTW, never watched or read SAO, much prefer Accel Globe.

Reki said he wrote it because he sucked at games and then he imagined himself a story where a character is pretty much Neo from the Matrix in video games, so I judge fanfic/wish fulfillment are interchangeable when information technology comes to SAO, you lot could say information technology's a fiction for fans of video games, and information technology thou% draws inspiration from things like the Matrix or other similar stories, it actually does absolutely nothing new except put the anime spin on it, SAO doesn't even have characters, merely concepts, the OP MC, the hot girlfiend for the OP MC, the masterming, etc. much like..... The Matrix

this somewhat applies for AW also, the ket differnece between AW and SAO bein that AW actualy has existent characters with their ain lives/motivations/stories within it unlike SAO

Ah... yes ofcourse, we can't have a SAO thread without the usual misinformation spreader who truly believe what he is maxim is correct so you tin't even detest on them and merely feel pity xD

these wrong "facts" has been repeated then many fourth dimension by the haters that the final effect is nothing like the truth and even people who don't intendance almost SAO or never even watched or read information technology believe it to be true xD

That'south the Stigma of being SAO.

Reki never e'er mentioned sucking at games nor did he mention "imagining himself" as Kirito, I think the source of this misinformation is Reki mentioning "He modeled Kirito equally the Professional person Gamers he would see in the games who were actually skilled and experienced and knew everything nigh the game due to their dedication and time spent on the game." (Which is actually a good thing coz Kirito is modeled after real people with real weakness and hardship he take to go through and non some fantasy OP MC)

Only somehow this line got twisted into "Reki wanting to be a Pro Gamer but he never could" and then twisted more into "Reki imagined himself equally Kirito and made him a pro gamer as wish-fulfillment" lmao.

The funny thing is, Reki mentioned many fourth dimension earlier that being a Pro Gamer was just not his style or wish, some people love to be competitive and #1 in games, merely some people are simply casual gamer that might enjoying looking at pro gamers, follow the competition or stream/twitch in tournaments, only they don't actually want to be them.

as for SAO Graphic symbol having no "Grapheme"... lol
I tin can't disagree more, specially if you read SAOP or most of SAO, when someone say this, information technology makes me wonder if they ever read whatever SAO and if they did, did we read the same thing or peradventure they mistakenly read some fanfic of information technology !

As someone who has been reading Novels (hundreds of Western, Korean, Chinese and Japanese) in the last ~xviii years (Since I was ~x, I was a bookworm and still am)

I can say with certainly, SAO Series and Information technology's Characters, specially if you include the latter Arcs & SAO Progressive as well, are in the Top ten% of all the popular novels out there.

While it varies between each person's opinion (as it should), if you really read SAO Progressive Light Novels and and so say it's a badly written wishfullfilling fanfic, then you lot gonna have a very bad time finding many practiced novel out there, since most of them are far worse than your "badly written wish-fulfilling fanfic" lol

As someone who was quite active in the light novel translation community back in the day, I also saw how SAO grew and knew a lot of other fans and translators passionate about the serial. I'm pretty neutral towards the franchise itself. Not the worst, but as well not that great.

At some indicate the anime's reputation got so bad (primarily amidst English-speaking fans AFAIK), it practically became an unspoken rule to bash SAO when the opportunity presents itself, that information technology's almost inexplainable. But judging from discussions with some friends and acquaintances, apparently the hate SAO gets is not so much considering it is terrible, equally it is because of vocal fans e'er ready to defend its flaws (keyword: tentacles) and proclaim it as the Best Thing Ever TM.

Like in every other overblown fandom of popular properties, I guess.

SaneSavantElla wrote:

Just judging from discussions with some friends and acquaintances, apparently the detest SAO gets is non so much because it is terrible, as it is because of vocal fans always ready to defend its flaws (keyword: tentacles) and proclaim it as the Best Thing Ever TM.
Similar in every other overblown fandom of popular properties, I guess.

many people go on on hearing others say this and they likewise repeat that, but the number of fourth dimension you see obnoxious shitting on SAO is thou fourth dimension more than you see obnoxious defending of information technology.

Furthermore, there is some very popular SAO hating video on youtube that unfortunately, promote toxic behavior by not simply shitting on SAO itself, but directly, shitting on any SAO Fans and whoever savour SAO with a variety of insults, creating an Stigma of "you are mocked on if you ever savour SAO".

The outcome of such an actions is nil more than than seeking a vehement reaction from the song fans of the series. coz they are being directly targeted and shitted on.

Meanwhile, I do not care about the thought germs and their never catastrophe arguments and I don't want to defend or fustigate on whatever side.

I simply feel pity for the new coming fans who either feel scared to admit to their feeling nearly SAO or the potential fans who even avoid SAO becouse they are scared of being mocked, I recommend SAO from fourth dimension to time when people ask for specific recommendations in r/LightNovels and I literally had people answer to me with "Sorry if I purchase SAO and my friends see the novel in my house they will mock me for it and so I can't buy SAO"

Pedram wrote:

Nate148 wrote:

the volume jumps from episode 1 to episode 8

To be Verbal, the volume Volume 1 start on floor 74, flashback to kickoff of decease game, and so go back to continue Floor 74 story and cease in Floor 75. as the commodity mentioned, it was like this due to being a ane-shot with page limit that needed a full conclusion.

EP2 of anime is adapted from SAO Progressive Book 1 simply skipped a lot,
EP3 to vii of Anime is from SAO Volume 2 side stories.

Orion2 wrote:

fuuma_monou wrote:

TsukasaElkKite wrote:

IMHO information technology's badly written wish fulfillment fanfic.

How is it fanfic? Wish-fulfillment, I'll grant you that. BTW, never watched or read SAO, much adopt Accel World.

Reki said he wrote it considering he sucked at games then he imagined himself a story where a character is pretty much Neo from the Matrix in video games, so I approximate fanfic/wish fulfillment are interchangeable when it comes to SAO, y'all could say it's a fiction for fans of video games, and information technology 1000% draws inspiration from things like the Matrix or other similar stories, information technology actually does absolutely zero new except put the anime spin on it, SAO doesn't fifty-fifty have characters, only concepts, the OP MC, the hot girlfiend for the OP MC, the masterming, etc. much like..... The Matrix

this somewhat applies for AW as well, the ket differnece between AW and SAO bein that AW actualy has real characters with their ain lives/motivations/stories inside it unlike SAO

Ah... aye ofcourse, nosotros can't accept a SAO thread without the usual misinformation spreader who truly believe what he is saying is correct so yous tin can't even detest on them and only experience pity xD

these wrong "facts" has been repeated and so many time by the haters that the final result is zero like the truth and even people who don't intendance about SAO or never even watched or read it believe it to be true xD

That'due south the Stigma of being SAO.

Reki never ever mentioned sucking at games nor did he mention "imagining himself" as Kirito, I think the source of this misinformation is Reki mentioning "He modeled Kirito as the Professional Gamers he would see in the games who were really skilled and experienced and knew everything virtually the game due to their dedication and time spent on the game." (Which is actually a good affair coz Kirito is modeled after real people with existent weakness and hardship he take to go through and not some fantasy OP MC)

But somehow this line got twisted into "Reki wanting to be a Pro Gamer only he never could" and so twisted more into "Reki imagined himself every bit Kirito and fabricated him a pro gamer every bit wish-fulfillment" lmao.

The funny thing is, Reki mentioned many time before that beingness a Pro Gamer was simply not his style or wish, some people honey to exist competitive and #1 in games, but some people are just coincidental gamer that might enjoying looking at pro gamers, follow the competition or stream/twitch in tournaments, but they don't really want to be them.

as for SAO Grapheme having no "Character"... lol
I can't disagree more than, specially if you read SAOP or most of SAO, when someone say this, it makes me wonder if they ever read any SAO and if they did, did nosotros read the aforementioned matter or maybe they mistakenly read some fanfic of it !

Equally someone who has been reading Novels (hundreds of Western, Korean, Chinese and Japanese) in the final ~18 years (Since I was ~10, I was a bookworm and however am)

I can say with certainly, SAO Series and It's Characters, peculiarly if you include the latter Arcs & SAO Progressive as well, are in the Top 10% of all the popular novels out there.

While it varies between each person's stance (as it should), if you actually read SAO Progressive Light Novels and and then say it'southward a badly written wishfullfilling fanfic, and so you lot gonna take a very bad time finding many good novel out there, since well-nigh of them are far worse than your "badly written wish-fulfilling fanfic" lol

It'southward squeamish to see people on hither that actually know what they are talking near. The amount of misinformation I encounter spread effectually about SAO and Reki Kawahara is insane.

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